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25 April 2010 @ 01:12 pm
You can hear my heart bleeding from there...  
Via rochvelleth - a variation on a theme of course since I took the Scottish version of the quiz

Take the Who Should You Vote For? Scotland quiz

Labour  22
Liberal Democrat  22
Scottish National Party  19
Green  12
Conservative-20  
UK Independence-41  

Your recommendation: Labour/Liberal Democrat

Not much of a surprise there, then. Although a slightly stronger showing for Labour than I might have expected. Probably based on the fact I said that I would like the people running the country to have some experience but of course you can't get that with the Lib Dems until we actually give them a chance to get some!

No shock about the bottom two though. I have a very European outlook - something I think most Scottish people do, more so than the English.

The SNP is a conundrum for me. I would very much like an independent Scotland - but I want to keep the Monarchy. And yes, knowing my taxes are paying for London's Olympics does annoy me slightly.

I'll be voting in a new constituency since I moved 2 years ago but both this one and the one I lived in previously were very safe Labour seats (a LibDem win would require an 18% swing) and I don't really expect that to change - reduced majorities possibly, but not a loss.

I will cast my vote anyway - because in my book, if you don't vote, you don't get to complain. We really should go with the Aussie model and make it mandatory.

ETA: Just out of curiosity I looked at the English quiz after I'd done the Scottish one. One question present on theirs but absent from mine? "The internet connections of suspected illegal filesharers should be suspended." I think that legislation doesn't apply in Scotland. Who me? Relieved? No.... whatever gave you that idea? ;)

Bizarrely enough I was still asked whether there should be a third runway at Heathrow! Go figure!
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roh_wyn: declarationroh_wyn on April 25th, 2010 01:14 pm (UTC)
Interesting. I wonder what that breakdown would look like for me, using US politics. I can make a pretty good guess, lol.

We really should go with the Aussie model and make it mandatory.

I didn't know they did that in Australia! I'm not sure I approve, actually. Messes with that whole freedom thing, which really includes the freedom to not give a crap, right?
WYG: Saltirewastingyourgum on April 25th, 2010 01:22 pm (UTC)
They can leave the ballot paper blank, which in effect is choosing not to vote, but they still have to show up and put the ballot in the box (or give a good reason like illness for not doing so).
roh_wynroh_wyn on April 25th, 2010 01:26 pm (UTC)
So if you're not actually required to vote, what is the point of the law? Essentially, you're just using more ballot/polling resources, when the level of voter apathy may be just as high as it is anywhere else in the world.

I wonder if it's to prevent voting fraud, i.e. B showing up to vote in A's place, because B knows A isn't going to show up?
WYG: Saltirewastingyourgum on April 25th, 2010 02:24 pm (UTC)
It is spectacularly "Big Brother" in that there's no good way to live off the grid - you have to be registered to vote, as well as actually voting. Just sounds like a great way for the govt. to keep tabs.

Like the proposed ID cards they're talking about for the UK...
rochvelleth: DW - Dalek your posterrochvelleth on April 25th, 2010 01:35 pm (UTC)
Bizarrely enough I was still asked whether there should be a third runway at Heathrow! Go figure!

Well yes, you still get to have a say in what happens here in England... I'm not sure why devolution works like this, but apparently it does :)

Completely random question: would you like to have your own Scottish king/queen if possible?

P.S. In episode 2 of the new Dr Who, Scotland had clearly become completely independent at some point. I always think you might as well believe in Dr Who's version of the future, seeing as nobody knows what's going to happen anyway :)
WYG: Saltirewastingyourgum on April 25th, 2010 02:22 pm (UTC)
I'm not sure why devolution works like this, but apparently it does :)

Yeah, I'm all for that getting sorted out - if it was the other way round with English people making all the decisions for Scotland I'd be well annoyed - oh, wait... ;)

Just kidding - I do think it's stupid situations like that happen - there should be an "English Office" for purely English matters.

would you like to have your own Scottish king/queen if possible?

Well if Scotland were independent I would expect the crown to be separate as well. The monarch could no longer realistically be "Queen of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland". There would have to be some acknowledgement of the separate Kingdoms again (and all the Americans can still quite happily just refer to the "Queen of England" as they do now ;) )

As to the current personification? I'm not a Jacobite. Liz 1 would be fine.
rochvelleth: DW - Dalek your posterrochvelleth on April 25th, 2010 02:35 pm (UTC)
I once got chatted up by a Jacobite at a reenactment at Carlisle Castle. Just OOI :) I think I mainly fancied him because of his beautiful studded shield and giant claymore[1].

[1] I know this is an awfully English spelling, but I always get the real spelling muddled up. Ah, celtic languages... :)
WYG: Saltirewastingyourgum on April 25th, 2010 02:53 pm (UTC)
Ah, yes - his imaginatively named "very big sword" - call it what you like, we know what you meant ;)
roh_wynroh_wyn on April 25th, 2010 07:34 pm (UTC)
Out of curiosity, are there any (hypothetical) claimants to the throne of Scotland, Jacobite or otherwise?

WYG: Saltirewastingyourgum on April 25th, 2010 08:35 pm (UTC)
Bonnie Prince Charlie's brother Henry was the last of the Stuart's to publicly claim he should be King. He pursued a clerical career and didn't marry so the claim passed to the House of Savoy and then wandered it's way around European nobility. The current claimant would be Franz, Duke of Bavaria, though he doesn't advance his claim in any way.

And his claim (if he made it) would be for the British throne of course - not just the Scottish.